Woman's Hour - 28/01/2010

With Jenni Murray. Dame Jane Goodall is the world's most famous primatologist and a high-profile campaigner for animal conservation. She is best known for her 45-year study of chimpanzees' social interactions in Tanzania, and this year marks the anniversary of her first trip to the Gombe National Park where she began her pioneering behavioural research. She tells Jenni why she feels optimistic about the future survival of animal species throughout the world. The number of people going to university is rising and the demand for places keeps going up, but is university really the best choice for so many young people? Average student debt in England is expected to rise to over 23,000 pounds, there are high levels of graduate unemployment, and employers frequently complain they can't recruit a workforce with the right skills. So how should higher education develop? Jenni discusses the issues with Pat Bacon from the Association of Colleges, Miles Templeman of the Institute of Directors and Nicola Dandridge fromUniversities UK. Ruth Padel is a prize-winning poet who has written books about tiger conservation and a biography in the form of lyric poems about her great-great-grandfather Charles Darwin. She has now written her first novel, Where the Serpent Lives.