The new Presbyterian Moderator, Dr Norman Hamilton, says it is a "public disgrace" that political and community leaders in Northern Ireland have failed to agree a community relations strategy that would effectively de-segregate Northern Ireland. He puts his case to culture minister Nelson McCausland, Martina Anderson of Sinn Fein, and Duncan Morrow from the Community Relations Council. And we gauge the mood in Londonderry, two days before the publication of Lord Saville's Bloody Sunday report, with Eamonn McCann and Catherine Cooke.