Robert Worby presents a programme of music recorded by the ensemble Apartment House. He is then joined by composers Michael Parsons and James Saunders to discuss the past, present and future of avant-garde and experimental music. James Saunders: #121006 (for 2 dictaphones, radio, theremin, bic lid, Feedback set up, CD and mini speakers, and long hacksaw blade) Markus Trunk: the rhythm mostly, but also the simple and natural words (for 3 wind instruments) John Lely: The Harmonics of Real Strings (for cello) Tim Parkinson: Quartet (4 percussionists) Apartment House: Anton Lukoszevieze (cello) Andrew Sparling (clarinet) John Lely, Tim Parkinson, James Saunders (auxiliary instruments, electronics).