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An interview with cricket administrator Ali Bacher, who in the 1980s organised the infamous 'rebel tours', luring cricketers to South Africa with huge pay cheques and incensing the anti-apartheid movement. Yet in the 1990s he established the multi-racial United Cricket Board, and formed close friendships with leading members of the ANC. He helped organise the 2003 Cricket World Cup in South Africa, and remains a major figure in the country.